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Message to Humanity

A Message from Sri Amma and Sri Bhagavan

In a world where mankind feels threatened by social upheavals, over population, wars, terrifying violence, callousness, each human being is more than ever concerned with his own survival. 

Survival has implied living sanely, happily without great pressure or strain. Each one of us translates survival according to his own particular concept. The idealist projects a way of life which is not the actual; the theoreticians, whether Marxist, religious, or of any other particular persuasion have laid down patterns for survival; the nationalists consider survival possible only in a particular group or community. These ideological differences, ideals and faiths are the roots of a division that is preventing human survival. 

Men want to survive in a particular way, according to their narrow responses, according to their immediate pleasures, according to some faith. All these can in no way bring security, for in themselves they are divisive, exclusive, limited. To live in the hope of survival according to tradition, however ancient or modern, has no meaning. Partial solutions of any kind - scientific, religious, political, economic- can no longer assure mankind, its survival. Man has been concerned with his own individual survival, with his family, with his group, his nation and because all this is divisive it threatens his actual survival. 

The modern divisions of nationalities, of color, of culture, of religion are the causes of man's uncertainty of survival. In the turmoil of today's world, uncertainty has made man turn to authority - to the political, religious or economic expert. The specialist is inevitably a danger because his response must always be partial, limited. Man is no longer individual, separate. What affects the few, affects all mankind. There is no escape or avoidance of the problem. You can no longer withdraw from the totality of the human predicament. 

We cannot possibly survive if we are concerned with our own survival. All human beings the world over are interrelated today. What happens in one country affects the others. Man considers himself an individual, separate from others but psychologically a human being is inseparable from the whole of mankind. 

There is no such thing as psychological survival. When there is this desire to survive or to fulfill you are psychologically creating a situation which not only separates but which is totally unreal. Psychologically you cannot be separate from another and this desire to be separate psychologically is the very source of danger and destruction. Each person asserting himself threatens his own existence. 

This assertion of separateness destroys our capacity to work together; to work together with nature, the living things of the earth and also with other human beings. As social beings we exist for ourselves. Our laws, our governments, our religions all emphasize the separateness of man - which during the centuries has developed into man against man. It is becoming more and more important, if we are to survive, that there be a spirit of cooperation with the universe, with all the things of the sea and earth.

One can see in all social structures the destructive effect of fragmentation taking place - nation against nation, one group against another group, one family against another family, one individual against another, religiously, socially, and economically. Each one is striving for himself, for his class or his particular interest in the community. This division of beliefs, ideals, conclusions and prejudices is preventing the spirit of cooperation from flowering. We are human beings, not tribal identities, exclusive, separate. We are human beings caught in conclusions, theories, faiths. We are living creatures, not labels. It is our human circumstance that makes us search for food, clothes and shelter at the expense of others. Our very thinking is separative, and all actions springing from this limited self, must prevent cooperation. The economic and social structure, as it is now, including organized religions, intensifies exclusiveness, and separateness. This lack of cooperation ultimately brings about wars and the destruction of man. It is only during crises or disasters, that we seem to come together and when they are over we are back to our old condition. We seem to be incapable of living and working together harmoniously. 

Is it because our brain, which is the centre of our thought, our feeling, has from ancient days become through necessity so conditioned to seek its own personal survival, that this isolating, aggressive process has come about? Is it because this isolating process identifies itself with the family, with the tribe, and becomes glorified nationalism? Is not all isolation linked to a need for identification and fulfillment? Has not the importance of the self been cultivated through evolution by the opposition of the 'me' and 'you', the 'we' and 'they'? Have not all religions emphasized personal salvation, personal enlightenment, personal achievement, both religiously and in the world? Has cooperation become impossible because we have given such importance to this sense of separateness? Is it because human cooperation has centered on some kind of authority of Government or religion around some ideology or conclusion, which then inevitably brings about its own destructive opposite? 

What does it mean to cooperate - not the word but the spirit of it? You cannot possibly cooperate with another, with the earth and its waters, unless you in yourself are harmonious, not broken up, non contradictory; you cannot cooperate if you yourself are under strain, pressure, conflict. How can you cooperate with the universe if you are concerned with yourself, your problems and your ambitions? There can be no cooperation if all your activities are self centered and you are occupied with your own selfishness, with your own secret desires and pleasures. As long as the intellect with its thoughts dominates all your actions, obviously there can be no cooperation, for self-centered thought is partial, narrow and everlastingly divisive. Cooperation demands great honesty. Honesty has no motive. Honesty is not some ideal, some faith. Honesty is clarity - the clear perception of things as they are. Perception is attention. That very attention throws light with all its energy on that which is being observed. This light of perception brings about a transformation of the thing observed. There is no system through which you learn to cooperate. It is not to be structured and classified. Its very nature demands that there be love and that love is not measurable, for when you compare - which is the essence of measurement - self has entered. Where self is, love is not. 

When the truth of all this is seen and understood man's responsibility undergoes a radical change not only towards his immediate environment but also towards all living things. This total responsibility is love. This love acts through intelligence. This intelligence is not partial, individual separate. Love is never partial. Love is the sacredness of all living things. 

We have stated the problem, the cause and now we must find the solution. Through no effort of his, could man possibly make it. All this is possible only when your heart is filled with the Presence. The Presence flows into you through Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as Oneness deeksha in the East). 

Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer would thus help create a new generation of human beings, with a new outlook, with a new sense of being citizens of the world, concerned with all the living things of the earth. It is your grave responsibility to help bring about this Oneness.

 

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Bhagavan, how do you give enlightenment?  How is it possible to give enlightenment?

Ah yes.  Basically it is through the process of what is called 'Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer, an electrical energy which transfers through some kind of a hole in the mind of man.  We believe that the mind of man is like a wall, which divides man from God.  The Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer is an electrical energy that makes a hole in this wall, which we call the mind.  Once that happens, then God and man can come to relate with each other.   The way they relate has to do with his background, his conditioning, his aspirations, his education, so many factors.  But it is God who gives enlightenment, whether you call it God or cosmic consciousness or nature, call it what you want.  So that takes over and enlightenment is delivered through God.  He is the one who delivers.  Our job is to give the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer and make a hole in the mind, and then God does the rest.  It's a very complex process that only God can do.  

So when you give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer you speak of this Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer as a neurobiological process that affects the brain?

Yes, when we give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer it is like the passing on of an electrical energy that affects the brain, the spinal cord, and what we call the ductless glands or the 'chakras'.  So most of the work is being done on the frontal lobes and the parietal lobes of the brain.  There is an activation of the frontal lobes, and a deactivation of the parietal lobes, plus some energies are sent into the ductless glands to reactivate these chakras.  So all this in turn produces a hole in the mind, and a link is established between God and man.  Thereafter what happens is God's work. Up to then, of course, we can do certain things.

Right.  So when you speak about losing the 'self', that's what happens when you make this hole in the wall?

When you make the hole in the wall, then God can take over, and then he works on the senses, liberating the senses from the mind, from the clutches of the mind.  When that happens you lose your 'self'. That part of the work happens through God himself.  As he is the creator, He works like a computer to rearrange the brain, and He takes over.  

Question: What is the significance of the year 2012?

Bhagavan:
OK. Most of you know that the earth has got a magnetic field.  As the earth’s molten core is rotating, the magnetic field is created.  The thought sphere of the human mind is located in the earth’s magnetic field.  This magnetic field has been weakening dramatically over last ten years.

Now, in physics there is a parameter called “Schumann’s Resonance”.  Using that we can determine the strength of the earth’s magnetic field.  While for many centuries, it was constant around 7.80 cycles per second, during the last 7-8 years, it has risen to 11 cycles per second and is continuing to increase dramatically.  If you work it out mathematically, it appears that, by the year 2012, the "Schumann’s" is likely to be 13 cycles per second.  When this resonance is 13 cycles per second, the earth’s core would stop rotating with magnetic field gone, you mind is gone.  When I say "your mind", what I mean is your "samskaras".  The pressure of the past 11,000 years of samskaras will vanish.

In the Dharma, we also say, “Mind is Karma”.  All actions start from your mind.  The mind is nothing but a storehouse of samskaras or past life vasanas from which all action emanates.  This is stored in the earth’s magnetic field.  So in the year 2012, it will become zero for a few days.  After that the core will start rotating again.  This would be a fresh beginning for man or the dawn of the Golden Age.  This is the significance of the year 2012.

How do we know it will happen?  The study of fossil records has shown that, it happens roughly after 11,000 years.  It’s only a short time away and then we can all start afresh.  That is why I want you to become enlightened by 2012.  If you are enlightened, with all your samskaras gone, we can begin a new yuga, which can be called Satya Yuga or the Golden Age.  Man will enter into a new state of altered consciousness.

As I told you already, the earth’s resonance is increasing which means the earth’s heart is undergoing a transformation.  The earth has got a physical body, like you have a body.  It has got a consciousness as well.  Now, as the resonance of the earth’s heartbeat is increasing, the earth’s heart functions very differently than before.  Now, your heart and the earth’s heart are connected.  The earth’s heart can be influenced by your heart and vice versa.  That is why, it is essential that your heartbeat synchronise with the earth’s resonance.  This means your heart must flower.  Your heart will flower when you discover love in your relationships.

If you have discovered love, you must stop judging your parents, spouses, etc., internally.  Nobody can be judged as the whole universe directly influences all events, even the behaviour of people.

So learn to experience life.  Life has to be experienced, be it pain or pleasure.

Q: Bhagavan, what is role of Amma in Mukti?

Bhagavan: Amma and I are two sides of the same coin. We are not really different. For practical purposes Amma takes care of the Vara deeksha and I take care of the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer. Maybe after some months I will shift over to Varas and Amma will shift over to Mukti. We can interchange, but when we work in the Mukti process I handle one particular Nadi and she handles one particular Nadi. And generally we won’t interchange those Nadis but both these Nadis are involved in the process.

If the problems are related to your father, because these are very vital things, then I would be handling them, and if the problems are related to the mother, Amma would be handling them, because your relationship with parents control the process to a great extent. And the other thing is, when I tend to ‘explain’, Amma tends to ‘act’. So you need both these components. If somebody comes and tells me - I have this problem, I try to explain to him why is this problem and that better he understands why it happened.

Amma and I we have our arguments and Amma says "Look! He already has a problem, he cannot even think, you are trying to explain to him right now. That we will see later, first let us solve his problem." My argument is that if you solve the problem, he runs away. So it goes on like this.

And there are sometimes when people have to be mothered, because it is a very wrong kind of delivery and therefore Amma has to mother him. So that kind of thing will be taken care of by Amma. We have complementary roles to play. But in the Mukti process both will be involved.

At a physical level, Amma is focusing more on the desires aspect and I am focusing more on the Mukti aspect. In essence there is no great difference. Basically I handle what is called the stillness and Amma handles what is called the movement. Stillness and movement would be alternating in consciousness. This is the ultimate truth, in case you can say there is an ‘ultimate truth’. These two only will be alternating. This only creates the universe and everything in it. You can experience in the Enlightenment process.

Q: Even before I complete my prayers to Amma, she delivers the boon on my lap. Why is it Amma, so fast and compassionate, Bhagavan? Do the Pancha Boothas obey Her word and act immediately?

Bhagavan: See, even in your families, the mother is generally quick to appease you. Your father is bit tough. It is exactly the same thing here. That’s why what you must do is, in case I’m not answering, you must shift to Amma. But Amma is also tough in her own way. She may be very demanding at times. She would want you to work out your karma by doing seva. She could put conditions like, "I will do this for you, but you set this right". But my way is "I will do this, but understand this". I focus more on learning. Amma focus more on karma. So you have to choose.

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Q. I suffer with a lot of negative thoughts, what should I do about them? 

 Bhagavan:

According to the natural principle, there is nothing you could do about them, except to become more observant, to become more aware that they are there.  If you try to fight with them or to push them out, they will become powerful.  All fights with negative thoughts must be avoided.

The more you fight, the stronger they become. The only way is to realize that they are there and then accept them. Just accept the truth. Because the truth is that the negative thoughts are there. How could you deny that?  By accepting them, they become weaker. As they become weaker, they have a chance that they would slowly fade out. So, please try to avoid all fight, all struggle with negative emotions.

And as you gradually go into it, you will realize that they are not your negative emotions but, they are just there in the thought sphere and it so happens that your brain is picking them up. They are not your negative thoughts, that is why we say - they are just thoughts, like that building is there, they are there.

They are not your thoughts but humanity's thoughts. And you will soon become free of them. This is the process that takes place in the courses at the Oneness University. Through our Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers here it becomes a very tangible experience to you and you no longer identify with the thoughts as your thoughts. The present negativity that is within you ceases thereafter.

 

Q. What is love?  If love has to be a permanent emotion in me, what should I do? 

Bhagavan:
What is love - we cannot talk about that.  What is not love - we can talk about.  Love is not attachment, love is not possession, love is not controlling somebody, love is not making use of somebody, and love is not all that you conceive of.  You cannot know love but you can experience love.

The only thing that we can say is that it is unconditional.  If you love somebody just because somebody is good looking, somebody is wealthy or popular or this or that, obviously that is not love.  But if you're not able to give any reason at all, then probably you have discovered love.  That love is unconditional and such love is not an imaginary love.

Thousands of people have discovered it and you can discover it. That is the purpose of human existence. Otherwise life is worthless.

Genuine affection is to be affected by the other.  This is the state of love that I give you as a personal experience in our Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers.

 

Q. Bhagavan, how would the temple you are building affect the whole of humanity? 

Bhagavan:
This temple that we are building has a special kind of structure, built on a very special place.  Thousands of people who have been through the 21-Day Process would come there, sit there and meditate.

Six or seven thousand people would be meditating in those halls and, many would be giving Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer in the world.  So their Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer would be very powerful, because these groups are meditating here.
 

Then after sometime this group would go out and a newer group would come in.  So it is like the power generator, with so many highly enlightened people, all in the same hall. That is why it is a pillar-less hall, with a very special design.

So as you keep meditating, it is like a power supply, which goes into the people who are giving Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer outside and helps mankind to become enlightened very fast.  So, this temple is being specially built for the specific purpose of enlightening mankind.

Q. Bhagavan, how do we accept things?

  Bhagavan:
See, the mind is a very good businessman.  It naturally does what is profitable to it. What is not profitable to it, it does not do.  When you do not accept something, the first thing is, it's a fact that it is there.

You cannot wish it away. By fighting with it, you are creating a lot of conflict. By conflict there is a lot of dissipation of energy.  When energy is being lost you become unhappy and also you become a failure.  On the other hand, if you accept what ever is there, there is no conflict.  No conflict means there is no wastage of energy.

When energy is still, there is no movement of energy as wastage. That becomes joy and happiness. It leads to greater success. If you can see this whole process, then naturally you'll accept because it is a better choice for you. You cannot do unprofitable things.
Somehow you are imagining that if you fight with it, it is good. Therefore you fight with it.

When you observe that fighting is not profitable, the mind naturally will drop it. You must see how all the fighting is not profitable to you, then it's all over. It is very simple but because you are not used to this observation, the situation is going to be difficult.

But once you learn it, it is as easy as breathing but, until then, it looks "Oh! How am I going to do it?” It takes some effort and understanding. Still it will be difficult but I am there!  If you know how to ask me, I can make you actually do it.
 

Q.  What exactly is Mukti? 

 Bhagavan:
Mukthi could be defined in various ways. My general definition for Mukthi is - the liberation of the senses.  Now when you see anything, you do not see without the interference of the mind.  When you can see without the mind's interference, that is Mukthi.  If you can hear without the mind interfering, that is Mukthi. The same applies to
smell, touch and even thought.

Thought can also be observed without your getting involved in the thought. Now what's happening is, when you are thinking, you think you are thinking. But it is actually possible to notice thoughts flow as though they were independent of you. This is a physical reality - actually you can observe the thoughts. Any kind of thought would
be flowing into you and going out of you.

When you can observe this flow of thoughts through you, this is the state of Mukthi. That is the complete liberation of the senses from the control of the mind.  It's only such a being that is actually living.
 

Wherever the mind is in control, you are not actually living. When the mind is not there, then you are actually living. That's why, when people ask me - what is the purpose of life, my answer is - "if you are living you won't ask that question".

The purpose of life is to live. What does that mean? It means to live the life of the senses. The senses must be independent and free of the mind. Now what's happening is, you are not at all experiencing reality. Reality to you is what is flowing through the senses.

Now, all the time you are interpreting all the data that is coming into you. You look at a tree and you say - big tree, mango tree, green tree, this, that etc. All the time comments are going on. When you sit down to eat food, you are not eating food. You start worrying about your family, about your office, or comment on the food itself. The food is not being experienced. 

That's why I have said in the Mahavakyas, "When you experience the reality as it is, then you will just experience bliss". You will realize that this whole creation is perfect. It's the most beautiful thing. You are already in heaven. You have made it into a hell.

So the whole attempt of this movement is to help you experience reality as it is. When that happens you will discover unconditional love and unconditional joy. You feel connected with everything and everybody.  You do not feel that you are a separate individual.

You do not live for yourself anymore. Because, `yourself' has become 'everybody'. You live for the sake of humanity, which is not a concept or an imaginary thing. This is a day-to-day reality, once you become enlightened. Thousands of people have already got into these states. This is the state I shall give you when you come to me.

 

Q. Bhagavan, why doesn't the mind stay concentrated on one thing? What should I do if it has to stay put at one point? 

 Bhagavan:
See, the mind, breath and kundalini form a triangle. If you tamper with one you'll be tampering the other two. Suppose the breath is not constant or steady, the mind also will not be constant and steady.

Similarly if the kundalini is vibrating too much, then also the mind will be unstable. Kundalini will start vibrating depending on the temperature, air pressure, depending on the kind of people around, depending on the food you've eaten, the clothes you are wearing - so many factors.

So as the kundalini is vibrating, the mind also becomes unsteady and becomes unfocused. So also is breath. In fact breath is a crucial element and most people do not even know how to breathe. That's why I often say that, children must be taught in school as to how to really breathe.

When this is done, you'll actually find that the mind becomes steadied. Without setting right these two things the mind will be very very shaky. And of course if you are not able to do these things, you can very well ask me inside and I will steady it. And you'll have a very focused mind. It's not very difficult to achieve.

 

Q. Bhagavan, please tell us three very easy ways to become rich!!

  Bhagavan:
The first thing is that the desire must come from the heart and not from the head. The desire from the heart is, let us say, you just look at a car, and then you touch it, you see it, you feel it, and then you would like to own it. You would like to drive it. From compassion if you ask, normally the desires do not get fulfilled.

Then the second thing is, you must have the confidence that you deserve it. If you become your own enemy and say, “Oh! All this is not possible. Do I really deserve it?" then it becomes very difficult.

The third thing is, you should ask me, like you would ask a friend. If you ask me like a friend, then it is very difficult for me to say a "No". And it should be reasonable. It should not be somebody who is just having a small little tea shop, and then you come and
ask, "give me a Benz!" that would be very very difficult. But if you would ask for a small three-wheeler or something (, it should be) reasonable, then it is possible. 

And I do believe in fulfilling people's desires. Because I think, that is something very good for people. I am not against desires, as long as they do not hurt or harm others. So once or twice, when these desires are fulfilled, then it becomes very easy. You will
exactly know how to go about it.

Clarity is important. You must be very exact in what you are asking. When you want a job, please tell me, more exactly, what company you prefer, how it should be. The more the data you feed, the easier it becomes. Because when you actually ask me, the desire can be fulfilled.

Otherwise the desire won't come in the first place. I believe in creating rich people, in creating wealth. Then we can wipe out poverty. We can all live quite nicely. I want you all to live a very comfortable life. So you work out later on, may be not now and find out,
how much you really like to have. To make a person rich is very easy in fact. 

Q. What is the purpose of your darshan?  What do you do to us in your darshan?  What happens? 

 Bhagavan:
Reason number one is, when I am physically in your presence, it is easy to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.  That is it. The Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer that is given becomes much more effective, much more easily given, when you have a personal Darshan with Me. 

We have some other reasons also. It is not so important now. But as far as I am concerned, right now my main focus is, to help you receive the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer. So, that's what this is.  And when I am closing my eyes and going inside, I am trying to focus on you people. That will help in the process of Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer and also answer some of your prayers.

Many of you… though you say that you have come for Mukthi, you have secret desires. You keep asking. I try to focus on them so that your desires get fulfilled. It is also for the fulfilment of your desires that I give Darshans. Though that role is basically Amma's at Nemam, to fulfill desires, when you ask, I have to help you in that.
 

Q. Bhagavan, what is creativity and how does one become very creative? 

 Bhagavan:
After working very hard and thinking very hard, if you could set aside your thought process, you could become very creative. To be truly creative you must stop thinking. When that happens, then something comes from inside, that is true creativity.

But the question is - how are you going to put aside your thought process?  By simply putting aside your thought process you are not going to become creative because you must do all the hard thinking also.

If you can do really hard thinking and then if you learn the art of putting aside your thought process, which can be learnt, then you would discover that simply the creativity comes into your consciousness. It could be that you are working on an engine or some new design. It would just come up.

The process is done inside, of which you are not aware. It will just be thrown up. Here is where we are trying to educate the youth.  That's what we are trying to help you through our youth Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer – an exclusive program for the youth - to become more creative. In silence creation occurs.
 

Q. What is surrender? How to surrender?


  Bhagavan:
When we use the word surrender what we mean is that you should understand that this mind cannot really help you and that you have to get beyond the mind. If you let go of the mind, that letting go is what we call, surrender. You must realize that the human mind is limited and there is no use wasting your time with the mind. It is only going to create obstacles for you.

If you can see that, the mind would stop interfering. If that happens, then we say you have surrendered. That is all. It is not some kind of slavish surrender. It is never used in that sense. God would not like you to surrender like a slave. He is after all your friend. So, when we use the word surrender it means putting aside the mind, knowing its limitations.

You discover surrender when you feel you are helpless. When you feel you are totally helpless you will discover surrender. That is when Grace comes pouring in. Imagine that you are struck on the railway line and the train rushing at you, then you will certainly surrender!  Many people have surrendered to me like that. Most people surrender only in dire moments. That is why miracles too happen only in those moments.

 

Q. Bhagavan, what is the relationship between Yoga and Mukthi?  Without Yoga people say you cannot get Mukthi. What do you say? 

  Bhagavan:
All that I can tell is, now let us say you make a spaceship and you finally land up on the moon, it's a highly technical and a very very complex operation. But then if you have the Siddhi to travel in space, in a moment's notice you can physically land on the moon, do the same kind of exploration and come back.

That way all-human effort to achieve Mukthi is very cumbersome, very difficult and very rarely it will succeed. And finally when it does succeed, again it needs Grace. That is why very few people have become enlightened either through Yoga or other sadhanas.

Very often when they have been enlightened it has spontaneously happened. So, what I maintain is "Enlightenment has to be given to man. He cannot get enlightened on his own". Amma and I have come to give this state to man.
 

Q. Bhagavan, you speak about Oneness. What exactly is Oneness? 

  Bhagavan:
Man suffers alienation from his fellow human beings, from nature and from God; worse still from himself.

To avoid this misery he has created varied forms of escape like going out to parties, reading books, watching television, gossiping etc.  He has become an expert of managing suffering. Unless this fundamental issue is handled, there cannot be a massive transformation in the way we live and the way we experience life.  That is why, in spite of the French revolution, the American Revolution, the Russian revolution and many others, the world has not made any progress in terms of peace and happiness.

The root cause is that man is divided within and without. When this sense of division vanishes all problems in the world - religious, social, economical, political - would dissolve.

Oneness starts basically inside oneself; this can be affected through a process of individuation. Man is divided within and he is a stranger unto himself. We do not love ourselves in the first place, let alone loving others. We are constantly divided between the good and the bad, the right and the wrong, the perfect and the imperfect, the should-be and the should-not-be. When we achieve Oneness at a fundamental level, this conflict ceases.

Then there is an inner silence, which remains undisturbed by external factors. This silence is not the opposite of noise. That is inner Oneness. This Oneness then extends to the world at large, to nature and finally with God. The ultimate vision of the Oneness Movement is to make man one with God.

Q. Bhagavan, what is the Oneness University?

  Bhagavan:
Oneness University can be considered as the university for universities. It exists to make one into a true human being. Every human being has to be enlightened. Every human being has to be God realized.

This University exists to help people become enlightened and God realized. The function of the University is not only to give an understanding of the human mind, human consciousness, and life itself, but also to bestow the state of enlightenment or Oneness.

Seekers are not only given the state but are also empowered to transfer this state to others.  One is fully empowered to help others become enlightened. The effort is to create a new humanity that has discovered Oneness.

 

Q. What does one learn at Oneness University other than spirituality?

  Bhagavan:
This is a University, which is designed to help sort out all kinds of human problems. If you are a student who is weak in mathematics or physics or you have problems with concentration or are disoriented, we will help you.

Suppose you are depressed... we will pull you out of depression.  Suppose you are married and you want to end up in divorce, we can sort out - not by advising nor by counselling like they do in courts. You would simply fall in love. That is all. Suppose somebody had cheated you and you have thoughts of suicide, we would make you perfectly all right.
 

You want to get into a good job but are not able to get into it because of some problem within yourself, we would set that right. If you are a businessman, who has attempted a hundred and eight businesses and failed in every one, this time you would succeed. We will change the whole pattern for you.

If you are sick and the doctors have given up hope, we would heal you. If you are spiritually inclined and you want to become enlightened or God realized, we would give you that state. In short, this place exists to sort out all human problems. 

Q. Bhagavan, what is the most important factor in keeping a good relationship with one's parents?

  Bhagavan:
The basic thing you must know is that whatever they, as parents, have done to you, whatever you do not approve of, was not that they did it wilfully; they were made to do those things because they were being controlled by several factors.  You must realize that you are nothing but robots. 

You are a robot and your parent is a robot.  If you can see that, you wouldn't blame them at all. The way they behave with you would depend on what happened while they were in their mother's womb, their fundamental childhood decisions, past life vasanas, later day conditioning, etc.

If you realize this, first would come acceptance, then would come love and the relationship falls into order. Once the relationship falls into order, everything else falls into order.

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Q. Bhagavan, what is my swadharma?  How do I come to know about it?  Since the very beginning of my education I have not faced any success.  Why is it Bhagavan?  

  Bhagavan:
Swadharma has got two meanings, two connotations.  One refers to your nature. Suppose you are a violent person and that is your nature, then you should not join any pacifist movement.

You should either join the police force or the army. That is the best place for you. Let us say, your basic nature is to sing, then the best thing is that you become a singer.  Or if the basic nature of your body is to dance, then you become a dancer. That is one of the meanings of the word swadharma.
 

This connotation is to actually know your true nature and act accordingly. Like Krishna tells Arjuna - "your swadharma is to fight, not to talk peace". So you must know what your true nature is, what your constitution is in relation to the vata, pita, and kapha. Whether there is sattva, rajas, or tamas predominant in you, what is your combination, and accordingly you must be true to your nature.  

The other thing is discovering your mission in life.

God has a definite mission for each one of you, which you must clearly understand and live accordingly. For that to happen you must discover God. But in Kali Yuga, you have lost contact with God. Here we are trying to put you in touch with God, whereby you and God can talk and God can tell you the purpose of your life. Then accordingly you must live.  It has to come directly from God. That is the other aspect of swadharma.
 

Q. What exactly is love, Bhagavan?  Is love also an emotion like anger, like jealousy or is it a power that is hidden within man?  Would love lead to suffering or to joy?

  Bhagavan:
The love that we are talking about is not an emotion, nor some power, as you say. It is none of these things. This love cannot be spoken about. We can tell you what it is not. The love of a parent for the child is not this love. The love between a man and a woman is not this love.

Your love of your friend is not this love. It is not attachment, it is not possession, it is not concern, it is not caring, it is none of these things. It is the stuff with which this universe is created. It is the stuff of the universe. It is your true nature. It is that which is there. If you go deeper and deeper into reality… what there is, it is emptiness. It is all emptiness.
 

That emptiness is love. That is the love we are talking about. It has to be experienced. At the first level you have to become enlightened, at the second level a divine being must come into you, only then you will know what it is. Otherwise it is beyond your grasp. We are not condemning the love you are experiencing now. This kind of love is perfectly fine.

What we are telling is, `that' love has no cause. If you see somebody, there will be `that' love. If you see an ant there will be `that' love. There is no cause for `that' love. For the love that you know there must be a cause. It must be your child, wife, friend, then there is love. On the other hand, when you experience causeless Love, you are in Oneness. You are no more separate from the dog, the leper, the beggar, or the rich. Nobody is separate from you. There is complete Oneness. It is a love born of Oneness. So, It has no cause.  

Q. Bhagavan, the kind of thoughts I have, the kind of feelings I have, are they all designed by God?  Is God putting those thoughts inside me?  Is God putting desire into me?  Is God putting violence into me? 

  Bhagavan:
All these thoughts come from the thought sphere. The thought sphere is as old as man and every single thought of every being that has ever been on this planet is recorded there and it is still there. These thoughts are flowing into and out of you. What thoughts are flowing inside you and what thoughts are flowing out of you depends on your health condition, the place in which you are staying, the people around you and many other factors. 

It is like tuning into a television channel. There are so many channels there and you could tune in to any channel. If you tune into a channel called negative thoughts, you will be getting so many negative thoughts. If you tune into a channel called violent thoughts, you will be getting those thoughts.

Once you get this insight that you are not your thoughts, and these thoughts are not yours, then strangely you will find that you tune into a channel that is broadcasting silence and you receive that silence. Otherwise you would be getting these thoughts and they are as old as man. 

They are not your thoughts. Some body could have had fear ten thousand years ago as he was being been chased by a tiger. That thought could now enter you. It would not be fear of the tiger but it would be fear of the share market. But the same fear comes into you like that. Once you realize that your thoughts are not your thoughts, you could actually see how they are coming, how they are flowing through you and then you become very detached. That is how you could be free of these things. 

Q.  Bhagavan, what should one do if love should go on increasing in oneself? 

  Bhagavan:
If you would realize that there is nothing you could do about it that is the beginning of love. In spirituality, the moment you realize there is nothing you could do about it, that is the beginning of all spiritual growth. As long as you keep trying you will never ever get there because that trying is the problem. 

That trying is the thing which takes you away from where you want to be.  You have to realize the futility of all effort in the inner world. All effort on the spiritual path is futile. If you could realize that, it could hit you like a ton of bricks and then all effort ceases. The moment effort is gone, there is love, and there is peace. But as long as you keep struggling you keep putting in some effort you will move further away.

If you want to discover love and you put in some effort, you will move further away from love. If you want peace and you put in some effort, you would move further away from peace because that very effort is the disturbance, the noise. You have to realize that futility of effort.
 

Q. What is the joy we get in spirituality, Bhagavan?

  Bhagavan:
Spirituality is only for getting joy. There must be joy in everything you do. Every moment must be joyous. You are not joyous. Making you joyous is spirituality. There must be joy - Joy without a cause. Joy with a cause is not joy at all.

Just because you pass you exams, just because you have purchased a house, because you got married to somebody nice, you are happy. That is pleasure.  Joy is causeless just as true love is causeless.  Spirituality helps you to discover causeless love and causeless joy.

 

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This is the transcript of a conversation Kiara Windrider had with Bhagavan on October 8, 2004 in Golden City.   It addresses issues of personal and global enlightenment through a process known as the "Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East)", which is an electrical transmission of divine energy resulting in neurobiological changes in the brain leading to states of enlightenment.  It also covers questions about environmental catastrophes and earth changes, human death, and the advent of the long awaited Golden Age.

 Namaste Bhagavan, I am so grateful for your presence on this earth and in my life, and for the gift of enlightenment that you have given to me, and are giving to the world.  For myself, I can say that there really seems like there is no individual self left, that who I am is simply the universe expressing through this body, experiencing itself moment to moment in a very fresh way.  It seems like there is an emptiness here, an emptiness that is at the same time very full. 

I would first like to ask you to introduce yourself.

Well, I am known in India as Bhagavan. I am an avatar, an avatar who is specifically concerned about enlightening people and of course, also fulfilling their desires.  I have been around for the past nearly 12 years or so.  We have millions of followers, and a few thousand now who are enlightened.  We can say that there is some kind of spiritual renaissance going on in the country here.  We have been able to address all sections of society, men and women, young and old, rich and poor.  There is now a tremendous seeking after enlightenment, a great passion now among large numbers of people to become enlightened, and so I have come to be considered as an avatar for enlightenment.

Bhagavan, for those may not be familiar with the term avatar, how would you define it?

In India, we have this concept of the avatar. An avatar could be a musical avatar, a mathematical avatar, a political avatar, or a spiritual avatar.  An avatar is someone who comes with a specific mission on the planet and who is divinely inspired, and through whom divine energies flow.   Avatars can come in every field of human activity. Many seem to think it is can only pertain to spiritual work, but it isn't so.  But I happen to be a spiritual avatar.

You and Amma, your wife, are both avatars?

Yes we are both avatars, like two sides of the same coin.  We have excellent understanding and communication, and sometimes we don't even have to talk to know what's going on.   We work like one being when it comes to enlightenment and helping people.

Bhagavan, there have been so many avatars in human history, who have come and given different teachings, and helped to maybe enlighten a few people.   What makes you so different?

Well, I think it is not about my being different.  I think I have come at a different time.  The other avatars prepared people for enlightenment, for liberation, but could not give it to them, not because they were not capable of giving it, but because the times were not ready for that.   So I come at a time when earth's energies have changed, and man is very receptive, and it is possible to give him enlightenment.  So my advantage is that I have come at the right time, a time when it is possible to give it to man.

Does this have something to do with our movement into the Golden Age?

It definitely has to do with the emergence of the Golden Age.  In India it is believed that the Kali Yuga started sometime around 3002 BC and is supposed to have ended in 2002 AD.  By 2003 we are right into the Golden

Age.  That's why we began giving enlightenment publicly in the year 2003.

So it's only been one year.

It's only been one year.

Is this something you have been preparing for a very long time?

Yes, my whole life has been a preparation for this.  Ever since I was a child, my only concern was how to liberate man from his suffering.  These were not things that I arrived at through my own life experience, because I myself was a child, but rather I was forced to become concerned about man's suffering and to work for that.   That is why I am an avatar, because I never arrived at these conclusions, I was just led into these things by a higher energy, a higher force, what you call the divine energy, or God. 

Ever since I was a child I was made to do certain practices, which I did for many years.   So that has given me the ability.   So mostly I don't give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers.   I let others give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.   I am more like a powerhouse, and the others are like step down transformers who can receive this energy and pass it on to people.  So my function is to remain as a powerhouse for some time.   So this is how Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer is given and how enlightenment or God realization occurs.

I hear that each person's enlightenment is absolutely unique?

It's absolutely unique.  It depends on his background, his conditioning, what happened in his childhood, his own seeking, and his religious conditioning.  So all these things are involved.

Bhagavan, many many people have been seeking for many many lifetimes, and been through all kinds of practices and sadhanas and rituals and ceremonies and traditions, and many times they feel they have only been able to go so far, and none have been able to actually cross over into enlightenment.  So how is this different?

When I look at a person, I don't see him as a first-timer.  I only see millions of years behind him.  I believe that all of humanity has finished all the work they need to do.  I think everybody has been well prepared through so many lives.   And therefore now is the time to get it.   All the hard work has been done.  I believe everybody has done the hard work, and now the fruit is there to be had.

Yes, it must be such a relief for many people to hear that.

Yes, that's why I see everyone as a seeker, everybody has done their sadhana, everybody is ready. I cannot say so and so is not ready.

So there's no one who is not a seeker?

There is no one who is not a seeker. They could be seeking in different ways.

They could be seeking without even knowing they are seeking?

Without knowing they are seeking.

So as this work progresses, is it possible that more and more people will become enlightened who have no idea about enlightenment, who have never been seeking enlightenment, it will simply just happen?

Yes, what is likely to happen is that there are now people who are enlightened who are able to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers to people who are able to get into good states.  But very soon, maybe a few months from now, those who will receive Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer from them will naturally become enlightened.  And not only that, they will be able to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer to others and make them enlightened.  This process will continue for some time.  There will come a time when without Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer the whole of mankind is going to make it.   Once the critical level is reached there is going to be a spontaneous occurrence across the planet. 

What will this look like in practical terms?

In practical terms the world will look very different. We will not be able to talk about me being an Indian or you being an American or somebody else being an African.  We cannot talk in terms of races and nationalities, or I can't say I'm a Hindu, I'm a Christian, and I’m a Muslim.   So all these things that divide man will just disappear.  All these things will just drop off.  There will be no need for these things.  All these divisions will not exist.  We will become just human beings.  We will become one family.  It's not a concept, this will just happen.  This is when we will truly become humans.  But as long as we are going to define ourselves in terms of nationalities, religions, cultures, race, we will still continue to be tribal and very primitive.  We are becoming human now.  It will definitely happen.

What about people who are still into power, control, and ego games, and who may not want to get enlightened?

Yes, people who stubbornly resist enlightenment will also naturally become enlightened.  At that point there won't be any resisting it.  Nobody can say "I will stay out of enlightenment".  That is not possible.   It's a natural occurrence.  It's human evolution.   So all these power games and ego games will just stop.  You can just not do it anymore.  The brain will function differently.

That's amazing.  So even the people who are consciously and adamantly refusing to even think about sharing the earth with other people, who are trying to control the resources of the earth and creating environmental devastation for their own benefit, whether companies, governments, businesses, or individuals, this will all change?

Yes, all this will dramatically change.  Man will soon realize that the earth is a living organism, he depends on it like his Mother, so no one will even think of harming the earth.  This won't take some kind of education; it will be a natural happening.  This is what will happen.  So we are going to see a very different earth, a very different world. I am not speculating.  I am just speaking very directly from the visions thousands of people have had in the last decade from various continents.

Bhagavan there are many scientists who predict, based on what is happening on the planet today - global warming, possible ice age coming, the quality of air and water, and so on - that there could be a major environmental catastrophe, and that we might even end up wiping out all life on the planet.   How can you be so sure that there will be a planetary enlightenment?

 The predictions are quite true, but what they are not aware of is that, as we have seen in our visions, a great transformation is sweeping across the planet, which will in turn prevent these things from happening.  Already we are seeing signs of people becoming enlightened, and how it affects the environment.  We are able to see this on a very small scale.   And from that we are able to predict that on a global scale this transformation is going to occur. This is what is going to save the earth.  If that does not happen, then what the scientists are predicting could very well come true.

So an example could be that if a village gets enlightened, and there has been a drought for the past few years, then the monsoons come.

The monsoons will come, yes.  It is happening in many places in India.  We are seeing it.

So similarly when there are predictions of major earthquakes, volcanic activity, pole shifts even, then as people become enlightened, this will alter our relationship with the earth.

We could save the earth.  That is why we are telling people, "the house is on fire, let us move faster, let us hurry up".

Yes, this is a very important message for people to hear. There are so many people in despair and hopelessness, so many good people who have given up any kind of future for the earth because of what they see with their outer eyes.

Yes, but there is no need for them to lose hope, because things are going to change dramatically.  In a very unexpected way things are going to change.

Yes, I am so happy to hear that.  As people become enlightened, and as the planet becomes enlightened as a collective, how will that change the physical quality of the earth?

There is a very close correlation between human consciousness and the physical process occurring on the planet.  So the moment that conflict levels are reduced in human consciousness, you will find dramatic changes at the earth level also.   So you will find a reduction of insects and pests in the crops, and nature behaving in a much better way without the need for chemicals.   All these things are a natural consequence of the reduction of conflict in human consciousness.  There is such a close correlation between the two.  This also we are seeing on a small scale at the village level.   So as humans become enlightened, then our relationship with the environment will change, species that have become extinct will come back, the oceans will become de-polluted, and so on.

Yes, we have seen remarkable things happening on a small scale, so we believe it can happen on a large