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Message to Humanity

A Message from Sri Amma and Sri Bhagavan

In a world where mankind feels threatened by social upheavals, over population, wars, terrifying violence, callousness, each human being is more than ever concerned with his own survival. 

Survival has implied living sanely, happily without great pressure or strain. Each one of us translates survival according to his own particular concept. The idealist projects a way of life which is not the actual; the theoreticians, whether Marxist, religious, or of any other particular persuasion have laid down patterns for survival; the nationalists consider survival possible only in a particular group or community. These ideological differences, ideals and faiths are the roots of a division that is preventing human survival. 

Men want to survive in a particular way, according to their narrow responses, according to their immediate pleasures, according to some faith. All these can in no way bring security, for in themselves they are divisive, exclusive, limited. To live in the hope of survival according to tradition, however ancient or modern, has no meaning. Partial solutions of any kind - scientific, religious, political, economic- can no longer assure mankind, its survival. Man has been concerned with his own individual survival, with his family, with his group, his nation and because all this is divisive it threatens his actual survival. 

The modern divisions of nationalities, of color, of culture, of religion are the causes of man's uncertainty of survival. In the turmoil of today's world, uncertainty has made man turn to authority - to the political, religious or economic expert. The specialist is inevitably a danger because his response must always be partial, limited. Man is no longer individual, separate. What affects the few, affects all mankind. There is no escape or avoidance of the problem. You can no longer withdraw from the totality of the human predicament. 

We cannot possibly survive if we are concerned with our own survival. All human beings the world over are interrelated today. What happens in one country affects the others. Man considers himself an individual, separate from others but psychologically a human being is inseparable from the whole of mankind. 

There is no such thing as psychological survival. When there is this desire to survive or to fulfill you are psychologically creating a situation which not only separates but which is totally unreal. Psychologically you cannot be separate from another and this desire to be separate psychologically is the very source of danger and destruction. Each person asserting himself threatens his own existence. 

This assertion of separateness destroys our capacity to work together; to work together with nature, the living things of the earth and also with other human beings. As social beings we exist for ourselves. Our laws, our governments, our religions all emphasize the separateness of man - which during the centuries has developed into man against man. It is becoming more and more important, if we are to survive, that there be a spirit of cooperation with the universe, with all the things of the sea and earth.

One can see in all social structures the destructive effect of fragmentation taking place - nation against nation, one group against another group, one family against another family, one individual against another, religiously, socially, and economically. Each one is striving for himself, for his class or his particular interest in the community. This division of beliefs, ideals, conclusions and prejudices is preventing the spirit of cooperation from flowering. We are human beings, not tribal identities, exclusive, separate. We are human beings caught in conclusions, theories, faiths. We are living creatures, not labels. It is our human circumstance that makes us search for food, clothes and shelter at the expense of others. Our very thinking is separative, and all actions springing from this limited self, must prevent cooperation. The economic and social structure, as it is now, including organized religions, intensifies exclusiveness, and separateness. This lack of cooperation ultimately brings about wars and the destruction of man. It is only during crises or disasters, that we seem to come together and when they are over we are back to our old condition. We seem to be incapable of living and working together harmoniously. 

Is it because our brain, which is the centre of our thought, our feeling, has from ancient days become through necessity so conditioned to seek its own personal survival, that this isolating, aggressive process has come about? Is it because this isolating process identifies itself with the family, with the tribe, and becomes glorified nationalism? Is not all isolation linked to a need for identification and fulfillment? Has not the importance of the self been cultivated through evolution by the opposition of the 'me' and 'you', the 'we' and 'they'? Have not all religions emphasized personal salvation, personal enlightenment, personal achievement, both religiously and in the world? Has cooperation become impossible because we have given such importance to this sense of separateness? Is it because human cooperation has centered on some kind of authority of Government or religion around some ideology or conclusion, which then inevitably brings about its own destructive opposite? 

What does it mean to cooperate - not the word but the spirit of it? You cannot possibly cooperate with another, with the earth and its waters, unless you in yourself are harmonious, not broken up, non contradictory; you cannot cooperate if you yourself are under strain, pressure, conflict. How can you cooperate with the universe if you are concerned with yourself, your problems and your ambitions? There can be no cooperation if all your activities are self centered and you are occupied with your own selfishness, with your own secret desires and pleasures. As long as the intellect with its thoughts dominates all your actions, obviously there can be no cooperation, for self-centered thought is partial, narrow and everlastingly divisive. Cooperation demands great honesty. Honesty has no motive. Honesty is not some ideal, some faith. Honesty is clarity - the clear perception of things as they are. Perception is attention. That very attention throws light with all its energy on that which is being observed. This light of perception brings about a transformation of the thing observed. There is no system through which you learn to cooperate. It is not to be structured and classified. Its very nature demands that there be love and that love is not measurable, for when you compare - which is the essence of measurement - self has entered. Where self is, love is not. 

When the truth of all this is seen and understood man's responsibility undergoes a radical change not only towards his immediate environment but also towards all living things. This total responsibility is love. This love acts through intelligence. This intelligence is not partial, individual separate. Love is never partial. Love is the sacredness of all living things. 

We have stated the problem, the cause and now we must find the solution. Through no effort of his, could man possibly make it. All this is possible only when your heart is filled with the Presence. The Presence flows into you through Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as Oneness deeksha in the East). 

Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer would thus help create a new generation of human beings, with a new outlook, with a new sense of being citizens of the world, concerned with all the living things of the earth. It is your grave responsibility to help bring about this Oneness.

 

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Bhagavan, how do you give enlightenment?  How is it possible to give enlightenment?

Ah yes.  Basically it is through the process of what is called 'Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer, an electrical energy which transfers through some kind of a hole in the mind of man.  We believe that the mind of man is like a wall, which divides man from God.  The Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer is an electrical energy that makes a hole in this wall, which we call the mind.  Once that happens, then God and man can come to relate with each other.   The way they relate has to do with his background, his conditioning, his aspirations, his education, so many factors.  But it is God who gives enlightenment, whether you call it God or cosmic consciousness or nature, call it what you want.  So that takes over and enlightenment is delivered through God.  He is the one who delivers.  Our job is to give the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer and make a hole in the mind, and then God does the rest.  It's a very complex process that only God can do.  

So when you give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer you speak of this Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer as a neurobiological process that affects the brain?

Yes, when we give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer it is like the passing on of an electrical energy that affects the brain, the spinal cord, and what we call the ductless glands or the 'chakras'.  So most of the work is being done on the frontal lobes and the parietal lobes of the brain.  There is an activation of the frontal lobes, and a deactivation of the parietal lobes, plus some energies are sent into the ductless glands to reactivate these chakras.  So all this in turn produces a hole in the mind, and a link is established between God and man.  Thereafter what happens is God's work. Up to then, of course, we can do certain things.

Right.  So when you speak about losing the 'self', that's what happens when you make this hole in the wall?

When you make the hole in the wall, then God can take over, and then he works on the senses, liberating the senses from the mind, from the clutches of the mind.  When that happens you lose your 'self'. That part of the work happens through God himself.  As he is the creator, He works like a computer to rearrange the brain, and He takes over.  

Question: What is the significance of the year 2012?

Bhagavan:
OK. Most of you know that the earth has got a magnetic field.  As the earth’s molten core is rotating, the magnetic field is created.  The thought sphere of the human mind is located in the earth’s magnetic field.  This magnetic field has been weakening dramatically over last ten years.

Now, in physics there is a parameter called “Schumann’s Resonance”.  Using that we can determine the strength of the earth’s magnetic field.  While for many centuries, it was constant around 7.80 cycles per second, during the last 7-8 years, it has risen to 11 cycles per second and is continuing to increase dramatically.  If you work it out mathematically, it appears that, by the year 2012, the "Schumann’s" is likely to be 13 cycles per second.  When this resonance is 13 cycles per second, the earth’s core would stop rotating with magnetic field gone, you mind is gone.  When I say "your mind", what I mean is your "samskaras".  The pressure of the past 11,000 years of samskaras will vanish.

In the Dharma, we also say, “Mind is Karma”.  All actions start from your mind.  The mind is nothing but a storehouse of samskaras or past life vasanas from which all action emanates.  This is stored in the earth’s magnetic field.  So in the year 2012, it will become zero for a few days.  After that the core will start rotating again.  This would be a fresh beginning for man or the dawn of the Golden Age.  This is the significance of the year 2012.

How do we know it will happen?  The study of fossil records has shown that, it happens roughly after 11,000 years.  It’s only a short time away and then we can all start afresh.  That is why I want you to become enlightened by 2012.  If you are enlightened, with all your samskaras gone, we can begin a new yuga, which can be called Satya Yuga or the Golden Age.  Man will enter into a new state of altered consciousness.

As I told you already, the earth’s resonance is increasing which means the earth’s heart is undergoing a transformation.  The earth has got a physical body, like you have a body.  It has got a consciousness as well.  Now, as the resonance of the earth’s heartbeat is increasing, the earth’s heart functions very differently than before.  Now, your heart and the earth’s heart are connected.  The earth’s heart can be influenced by your heart and vice versa.  That is why, it is essential that your heartbeat synchronise with the earth’s resonance.  This means your heart must flower.  Your heart will flower when you discover love in your relationships.

If you have discovered love, you must stop judging your parents, spouses, etc., internally.  Nobody can be judged as the whole universe directly influences all events, even the behaviour of people.

So learn to experience life.  Life has to be experienced, be it pain or pleasure.

Q: Bhagavan, what is role of Amma in Mukti?

Bhagavan: Amma and I are two sides of the same coin. We are not really different. For practical purposes Amma takes care of the Vara deeksha and I take care of the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer. Maybe after some months I will shift over to Varas and Amma will shift over to Mukti. We can interchange, but when we work in the Mukti process I handle one particular Nadi and she handles one particular Nadi. And generally we won’t interchange those Nadis but both these Nadis are involved in the process.

If the problems are related to your father, because these are very vital things, then I would be handling them, and if the problems are related to the mother, Amma would be handling them, because your relationship with parents control the process to a great extent. And the other thing is, when I tend to ‘explain’, Amma tends to ‘act’. So you need both these components. If somebody comes and tells me - I have this problem, I try to explain to him why is this problem and that better he understands why it happened.

Amma and I we have our arguments and Amma says "Look! He already has a problem, he cannot even think, you are trying to explain to him right now. That we will see later, first let us solve his problem." My argument is that if you solve the problem, he runs away. So it goes on like this.

And there are sometimes when people have to be mothered, because it is a very wrong kind of delivery and therefore Amma has to mother him. So that kind of thing will be taken care of by Amma. We have complementary roles to play. But in the Mukti process both will be involved.

At a physical level, Amma is focusing more on the desires aspect and I am focusing more on the Mukti aspect. In essence there is no great difference. Basically I handle what is called the stillness and Amma handles what is called the movement. Stillness and movement would be alternating in consciousness. This is the ultimate truth, in case you can say there is an ‘ultimate truth’. These two only will be alternating. This only creates the universe and everything in it. You can experience in the Enlightenment process.

Q: Even before I complete my prayers to Amma, she delivers the boon on my lap. Why is it Amma, so fast and compassionate, Bhagavan? Do the Pancha Boothas obey Her word and act immediately?

Bhagavan: See, even in your families, the mother is generally quick to appease you. Your father is bit tough. It is exactly the same thing here. That’s why what you must do is, in case I’m not answering, you must shift to Amma. But Amma is also tough in her own way. She may be very demanding at times. She would want you to work out your karma by doing seva. She could put conditions like, "I will do this for you, but you set this right". But my way is "I will do this, but understand this". I focus more on learning. Amma focus more on karma. So you have to choose.

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Q. I suffer with a lot of negative thoughts, what should I do about them? 

 Bhagavan:

According to the natural principle, there is nothing you could do about them, except to become more observant, to become more aware that they are there.  If you try to fight with them or to push them out, they will become powerful.  All fights with negative thoughts must be avoided.

The more you fight, the stronger they become. The only way is to realize that they are there and then accept them. Just accept the truth. Because the truth is that the negative thoughts are there. How could you deny that?  By accepting them, they become weaker. As they become weaker, they have a chance that they would slowly fade out. So, please try to avoid all fight, all struggle with negative emotions.

And as you gradually go into it, you will realize that they are not your negative emotions but, they are just there in the thought sphere and it so happens that your brain is picking them up. They are not your negative thoughts, that is why we say - they are just thoughts, like that building is there, they are there.

They are not your thoughts but humanity's thoughts. And you will soon become free of them. This is the process that takes place in the courses at the Oneness University. Through our Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers here it becomes a very tangible experience to you and you no longer identify with the thoughts as your thoughts. The present negativity that is within you ceases thereafter.

 

Q. What is love?  If love has to be a permanent emotion in me, what should I do? 

Bhagavan:
What is love - we cannot talk about that.  What is not love - we can talk about.  Love is not attachment, love is not possession, love is not controlling somebody, love is not making use of somebody, and love is not all that you conceive of.  You cannot know love but you can experience love.

The only thing that we can say is that it is unconditional.  If you love somebody just because somebody is good looking, somebody is wealthy or popular or this or that, obviously that is not love.  But if you're not able to give any reason at all, then probably you have discovered love.  That love is unconditional and such love is not an imaginary love.

Thousands of people have discovered it and you can discover it. That is the purpose of human existence. Otherwise life is worthless.

Genuine affection is to be affected by the other.  This is the state of love that I give you as a personal experience in our Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers.

 

Q. Bhagavan, how would the temple you are building affect the whole of humanity? 

Bhagavan:
This temple that we are building has a special kind of structure, built on a very special place.  Thousands of people who have been through the 21-Day Process would come there, sit there and meditate.

Six or seven thousand people would be meditating in those halls and, many would be giving Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer in the world.  So their Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer would be very powerful, because these groups are meditating here.
 

Then after sometime this group would go out and a newer group would come in.  So it is like the power generator, with so many highly enlightened people, all in the same hall. That is why it is a pillar-less hall, with a very special design.

So as you keep meditating, it is like a power supply, which goes into the people who are giving Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer outside and helps mankind to become enlightened very fast.  So, this temple is being specially built for the specific purpose of enlightening mankind.

Q. Bhagavan, how do we accept things?

  Bhagavan:
See, the mind is a very good businessman.  It naturally does what is profitable to it. What is not profitable to it, it does not do.  When you do not accept something, the first thing is, it's a fact that it is there.

You cannot wish it away. By fighting with it, you are creating a lot of conflict. By conflict there is a lot of dissipation of energy.  When energy is being lost you become unhappy and also you become a failure.  On the other hand, if you accept what ever is there, there is no conflict.  No conflict means there is no wastage of energy.

When energy is still, there is no movement of energy as wastage. That becomes joy and happiness. It leads to greater success. If you can see this whole process, then naturally you'll accept because it is a better choice for you. You cannot do unprofitable things.
Somehow you are imagining that if you fight with it, it is good. Therefore you fight with it.

When you observe that fighting is not profitable, the mind naturally will drop it. You must see how all the fighting is not profitable to you, then it's all over. It is very simple but because you are not used to this observation, the situation is going to be difficult.

But once you learn it, it is as easy as breathing but, until then, it looks "Oh! How am I going to do it?” It takes some effort and understanding. Still it will be difficult but I am there!  If you know how to ask me, I can make you actually do it.
 

Q.  What exactly is Mukti? 

 Bhagavan:
Mukthi could be defined in various ways. My general definition for Mukthi is - the liberation of the senses.  Now when you see anything, you do not see without the interference of the mind.  When you can see without the mind's interference, that is Mukthi.  If you can hear without the mind interfering, that is Mukthi. The same applies to
smell, touch and even thought.

Thought can also be observed without your getting involved in the thought. Now what's happening is, when you are thinking, you think you are thinking. But it is actually possible to notice thoughts flow as though they were independent of you. This is a physical reality - actually you can observe the thoughts. Any kind of thought would
be flowing into you and going out of you.

When you can observe this flow of thoughts through you, this is the state of Mukthi. That is the complete liberation of the senses from the control of the mind.  It's only such a being that is actually living.
 

Wherever the mind is in control, you are not actually living. When the mind is not there, then you are actually living. That's why, when people ask me - what is the purpose of life, my answer is - "if you are living you won't ask that question".

The purpose of life is to live. What does that mean? It means to live the life of the senses. The senses must be independent and free of the mind. Now what's happening is, you are not at all experiencing reality. Reality to you is what is flowing through the senses.

Now, all the time you are interpreting all the data that is coming into you. You look at a tree and you say - big tree, mango tree, green tree, this, that etc. All the time comments are going on. When you sit down to eat food, you are not eating food. You start worrying about your family, about your office, or comment on the food itself. The food is not being experienced. 

That's why I have said in the Mahavakyas, "When you experience the reality as it is, then you will just experience bliss". You will realize that this whole creation is perfect. It's the most beautiful thing. You are already in heaven. You have made it into a hell.

So the whole attempt of this movement is to help you experience reality as it is. When that happens you will discover unconditional love and unconditional joy. You feel connected with everything and everybody.  You do not feel that you are a separate individual.

You do not live for yourself anymore. Because, `yourself' has become 'everybody'. You live for the sake of humanity, which is not a concept or an imaginary thing. This is a day-to-day reality, once you become enlightened. Thousands of people have already got into these states. This is the state I shall give you when you come to me.

 

Q. Bhagavan, why doesn't the mind stay concentrated on one thing? What should I do if it has to stay put at one point? 

 Bhagavan:
See, the mind, breath and kundalini form a triangle. If you tamper with one you'll be tampering the other two. Suppose the breath is not constant or steady, the mind also will not be constant and steady.

Similarly if the kundalini is vibrating too much, then also the mind will be unstable. Kundalini will start vibrating depending on the temperature, air pressure, depending on the kind of people around, depending on the food you've eaten, the clothes you are wearing - so many factors.

So as the kundalini is vibrating, the mind also becomes unsteady and becomes unfocused. So also is breath. In fact breath is a crucial element and most people do not even know how to breathe. That's why I often say that, children must be taught in school as to how to really breathe.

When this is done, you'll actually find that the mind becomes steadied. Without setting right these two things the mind will be very very shaky. And of course if you are not able to do these things, you can very well ask me inside and I will steady it. And you'll have a very focused mind. It's not very difficult to achieve.

 

Q. Bhagavan, please tell us three very easy ways to become rich!!

  Bhagavan:
The first thing is that the desire must come from the heart and not from the head. The desire from the heart is, let us say, you just look at a car, and then you touch it, you see it, you feel it, and then you would like to own it. You would like to drive it. From compassion if you ask, normally the desires do not get fulfilled.

Then the second thing is, you must have the confidence that you deserve it. If you become your own enemy and say, “Oh! All this is not possible. Do I really deserve it?" then it becomes very difficult.

The third thing is, you should ask me, like you would ask a friend. If you ask me like a friend, then it is very difficult for me to say a "No". And it should be reasonable. It should not be somebody who is just having a small little tea shop, and then you come and
ask, "give me a Benz!" that would be very very difficult. But if you would ask for a small three-wheeler or something (, it should be) reasonable, then it is possible. 

And I do believe in fulfilling people's desires. Because I think, that is something very good for people. I am not against desires, as long as they do not hurt or harm others. So once or twice, when these desires are fulfilled, then it becomes very easy. You will
exactly know how to go about it.

Clarity is important. You must be very exact in what you are asking. When you want a job, please tell me, more exactly, what company you prefer, how it should be. The more the data you feed, the easier it becomes. Because when you actually ask me, the desire can be fulfilled.

Otherwise the desire won't come in the first place. I believe in creating rich people, in creating wealth. Then we can wipe out poverty. We can all live quite nicely. I want you all to live a very comfortable life. So you work out later on, may be not now and find out,
how much you really like to have. To make a person rich is very easy in fact. 

Q. What is the purpose of your darshan?  What do you do to us in your darshan?  What happens? 

 Bhagavan:
Reason number one is, when I am physically in your presence, it is easy to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.  That is it. The Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer that is given becomes much more effective, much more easily given, when you have a personal Darshan with Me. 

We have some other reasons also. It is not so important now. But as far as I am concerned, right now my main focus is, to help you receive the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer. So, that's what this is.  And when I am closing my eyes and going inside, I am trying to focus on you people. That will help in the process of Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer and also answer some of your prayers.

Many of you… though you say that you have come for Mukthi, you have secret desires. You keep asking. I try to focus on them so that your desires get fulfilled. It is also for the fulfilment of your desires that I give Darshans. Though that role is basically Amma's at Nemam, to fulfill desires, when you ask, I have to help you in that.
 

Q. Bhagavan, what is creativity and how does one become very creative? 

 Bhagavan:
After working very hard and thinking very hard, if you could set aside your thought process, you could become very creative. To be truly creative you must stop thinking. When that happens, then something comes from inside, that is true creativity.

But the question is - how are you going to put aside your thought process?  By simply putting aside your thought process you are not going to become creative because you must do all the hard thinking also.

If you can do really hard thinking and then if you learn the art of putting aside your thought process, which can be learnt, then you would discover that simply the creativity comes into your consciousness. It could be that you are working on an engine or some new design. It would just come up.

The process is done inside, of which you are not aware. It will just be thrown up. Here is where we are trying to educate the youth.  That's what we are trying to help you through our youth Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer – an exclusive program for the youth - to become more creative. In silence creation occurs.
 

Q. What is surrender? How to surrender?


  Bhagavan:
When we use the word surrender what we mean is that you should understand that this mind cannot really help you and that you have to get beyond the mind. If you let go of the mind, that letting go is what we call, surrender. You must realize that the human mind is limited and there is no use wasting your time with the mind. It is only going to create obstacles for you.

If you can see that, the mind would stop interfering. If that happens, then we say you have surrendered. That is all. It is not some kind of slavish surrender. It is never used in that sense. God would not like you to surrender like a slave. He is after all your friend. So, when we use the word surrender it means putting aside the mind, knowing its limitations.

You discover surrender when you feel you are helpless. When you feel you are totally helpless you will discover surrender. That is when Grace comes pouring in. Imagine that you are struck on the railway line and the train rushing at you, then you will certainly surrender!  Many people have surrendered to me like that. Most people surrender only in dire moments. That is why miracles too happen only in those moments.

 

Q. Bhagavan, what is the relationship between Yoga and Mukthi?  Without Yoga people say you cannot get Mukthi. What do you say? 

  Bhagavan:
All that I can tell is, now let us say you make a spaceship and you finally land up on the moon, it's a highly technical and a very very complex operation. But then if you have the Siddhi to travel in space, in a moment's notice you can physically land on the moon, do the same kind of exploration and come back.

That way all-human effort to achieve Mukthi is very cumbersome, very difficult and very rarely it will succeed. And finally when it does succeed, again it needs Grace. That is why very few people have become enlightened either through Yoga or other sadhanas.

Very often when they have been enlightened it has spontaneously happened. So, what I maintain is "Enlightenment has to be given to man. He cannot get enlightened on his own". Amma and I have come to give this state to man.
 

Q. Bhagavan, you speak about Oneness. What exactly is Oneness? 

  Bhagavan:
Man suffers alienation from his fellow human beings, from nature and from God; worse still from himself.

To avoid this misery he has created varied forms of escape like going out to parties, reading books, watching television, gossiping etc.  He has become an expert of managing suffering. Unless this fundamental issue is handled, there cannot be a massive transformation in the way we live and the way we experience life.  That is why, in spite of the French revolution, the American Revolution, the Russian revolution and many others, the world has not made any progress in terms of peace and happiness.

The root cause is that man is divided within and without. When this sense of division vanishes all problems in the world - religious, social, economical, political - would dissolve.

Oneness starts basically inside oneself; this can be affected through a process of individuation. Man is divided within and he is a stranger unto himself. We do not love ourselves in the first place, let alone loving others. We are constantly divided between the good and the bad, the right and the wrong, the perfect and the imperfect, the should-be and the should-not-be. When we achieve Oneness at a fundamental level, this conflict ceases.

Then there is an inner silence, which remains undisturbed by external factors. This silence is not the opposite of noise. That is inner Oneness. This Oneness then extends to the world at large, to nature and finally with God. The ultimate vision of the Oneness Movement is to make man one with God.

Q. Bhagavan, what is the Oneness University?

  Bhagavan:
Oneness University can be considered as the university for universities. It exists to make one into a true human being. Every human being has to be enlightened. Every human being has to be God realized.

This University exists to help people become enlightened and God realized. The function of the University is not only to give an understanding of the human mind, human consciousness, and life itself, but also to bestow the state of enlightenment or Oneness.

Seekers are not only given the state but are also empowered to transfer this state to others.  One is fully empowered to help others become enlightened. The effort is to create a new humanity that has discovered Oneness.

 

Q. What does one learn at Oneness University other than spirituality?

  Bhagavan:
This is a University, which is designed to help sort out all kinds of human problems. If you are a student who is weak in mathematics or physics or you have problems with concentration or are disoriented, we will help you.

Suppose you are depressed... we will pull you out of depression.  Suppose you are married and you want to end up in divorce, we can sort out - not by advising nor by counselling like they do in courts. You would simply fall in love. That is all. Suppose somebody had cheated you and you have thoughts of suicide, we would make you perfectly all right.
 

You want to get into a good job but are not able to get into it because of some problem within yourself, we would set that right. If you are a businessman, who has attempted a hundred and eight businesses and failed in every one, this time you would succeed. We will change the whole pattern for you.

If you are sick and the doctors have given up hope, we would heal you. If you are spiritually inclined and you want to become enlightened or God realized, we would give you that state. In short, this place exists to sort out all human problems. 

Q. Bhagavan, what is the most important factor in keeping a good relationship with one's parents?

  Bhagavan:
The basic thing you must know is that whatever they, as parents, have done to you, whatever you do not approve of, was not that they did it wilfully; they were made to do those things because they were being controlled by several factors.  You must realize that you are nothing but robots. 

You are a robot and your parent is a robot.  If you can see that, you wouldn't blame them at all. The way they behave with you would depend on what happened while they were in their mother's womb, their fundamental childhood decisions, past life vasanas, later day conditioning, etc.

If you realize this, first would come acceptance, then would come love and the relationship falls into order. Once the relationship falls into order, everything else falls into order.

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Q. Bhagavan, what is my swadharma?  How do I come to know about it?  Since the very beginning of my education I have not faced any success.  Why is it Bhagavan?  

  Bhagavan:
Swadharma has got two meanings, two connotations.  One refers to your nature. Suppose you are a violent person and that is your nature, then you should not join any pacifist movement.

You should either join the police force or the army. That is the best place for you. Let us say, your basic nature is to sing, then the best thing is that you become a singer.  Or if the basic nature of your body is to dance, then you become a dancer. That is one of the meanings of the word swadharma.
 

This connotation is to actually know your true nature and act accordingly. Like Krishna tells Arjuna - "your swadharma is to fight, not to talk peace". So you must know what your true nature is, what your constitution is in relation to the vata, pita, and kapha. Whether there is sattva, rajas, or tamas predominant in you, what is your combination, and accordingly you must be true to your nature.  

The other thing is discovering your mission in life.

God has a definite mission for each one of you, which you must clearly understand and live accordingly. For that to happen you must discover God. But in Kali Yuga, you have lost contact with God. Here we are trying to put you in touch with God, whereby you and God can talk and God can tell you the purpose of your life. Then accordingly you must live.  It has to come directly from God. That is the other aspect of swadharma.
 

Q. What exactly is love, Bhagavan?  Is love also an emotion like anger, like jealousy or is it a power that is hidden within man?  Would love lead to suffering or to joy?

  Bhagavan:
The love that we are talking about is not an emotion, nor some power, as you say. It is none of these things. This love cannot be spoken about. We can tell you what it is not. The love of a parent for the child is not this love. The love between a man and a woman is not this love.

Your love of your friend is not this love. It is not attachment, it is not possession, it is not concern, it is not caring, it is none of these things. It is the stuff with which this universe is created. It is the stuff of the universe. It is your true nature. It is that which is there. If you go deeper and deeper into reality… what there is, it is emptiness. It is all emptiness.
 

That emptiness is love. That is the love we are talking about. It has to be experienced. At the first level you have to become enlightened, at the second level a divine being must come into you, only then you will know what it is. Otherwise it is beyond your grasp. We are not condemning the love you are experiencing now. This kind of love is perfectly fine.

What we are telling is, `that' love has no cause. If you see somebody, there will be `that' love. If you see an ant there will be `that' love. There is no cause for `that' love. For the love that you know there must be a cause. It must be your child, wife, friend, then there is love. On the other hand, when you experience causeless Love, you are in Oneness. You are no more separate from the dog, the leper, the beggar, or the rich. Nobody is separate from you. There is complete Oneness. It is a love born of Oneness. So, It has no cause.  

Q. Bhagavan, the kind of thoughts I have, the kind of feelings I have, are they all designed by God?  Is God putting those thoughts inside me?  Is God putting desire into me?  Is God putting violence into me? 

  Bhagavan:
All these thoughts come from the thought sphere. The thought sphere is as old as man and every single thought of every being that has ever been on this planet is recorded there and it is still there. These thoughts are flowing into and out of you. What thoughts are flowing inside you and what thoughts are flowing out of you depends on your health condition, the place in which you are staying, the people around you and many other factors. 

It is like tuning into a television channel. There are so many channels there and you could tune in to any channel. If you tune into a channel called negative thoughts, you will be getting so many negative thoughts. If you tune into a channel called violent thoughts, you will be getting those thoughts.

Once you get this insight that you are not your thoughts, and these thoughts are not yours, then strangely you will find that you tune into a channel that is broadcasting silence and you receive that silence. Otherwise you would be getting these thoughts and they are as old as man. 

They are not your thoughts. Some body could have had fear ten thousand years ago as he was being been chased by a tiger. That thought could now enter you. It would not be fear of the tiger but it would be fear of the share market. But the same fear comes into you like that. Once you realize that your thoughts are not your thoughts, you could actually see how they are coming, how they are flowing through you and then you become very detached. That is how you could be free of these things. 

Q.  Bhagavan, what should one do if love should go on increasing in oneself? 

  Bhagavan:
If you would realize that there is nothing you could do about it that is the beginning of love. In spirituality, the moment you realize there is nothing you could do about it, that is the beginning of all spiritual growth. As long as you keep trying you will never ever get there because that trying is the problem. 

That trying is the thing which takes you away from where you want to be.  You have to realize the futility of all effort in the inner world. All effort on the spiritual path is futile. If you could realize that, it could hit you like a ton of bricks and then all effort ceases. The moment effort is gone, there is love, and there is peace. But as long as you keep struggling you keep putting in some effort you will move further away.

If you want to discover love and you put in some effort, you will move further away from love. If you want peace and you put in some effort, you would move further away from peace because that very effort is the disturbance, the noise. You have to realize that futility of effort.
 

Q. What is the joy we get in spirituality, Bhagavan?

  Bhagavan:
Spirituality is only for getting joy. There must be joy in everything you do. Every moment must be joyous. You are not joyous. Making you joyous is spirituality. There must be joy - Joy without a cause. Joy with a cause is not joy at all.

Just because you pass you exams, just because you have purchased a house, because you got married to somebody nice, you are happy. That is pleasure.  Joy is causeless just as true love is causeless.  Spirituality helps you to discover causeless love and causeless joy.

 

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This is the transcript of a conversation Kiara Windrider had with Bhagavan on October 8, 2004 in Golden City.   It addresses issues of personal and global enlightenment through a process known as the "Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East)", which is an electrical transmission of divine energy resulting in neurobiological changes in the brain leading to states of enlightenment.  It also covers questions about environmental catastrophes and earth changes, human death, and the advent of the long awaited Golden Age.

 Namaste Bhagavan, I am so grateful for your presence on this earth and in my life, and for the gift of enlightenment that you have given to me, and are giving to the world.  For myself, I can say that there really seems like there is no individual self left, that who I am is simply the universe expressing through this body, experiencing itself moment to moment in a very fresh way.  It seems like there is an emptiness here, an emptiness that is at the same time very full. 

I would first like to ask you to introduce yourself.

Well, I am known in India as Bhagavan. I am an avatar, an avatar who is specifically concerned about enlightening people and of course, also fulfilling their desires.  I have been around for the past nearly 12 years or so.  We have millions of followers, and a few thousand now who are enlightened.  We can say that there is some kind of spiritual renaissance going on in the country here.  We have been able to address all sections of society, men and women, young and old, rich and poor.  There is now a tremendous seeking after enlightenment, a great passion now among large numbers of people to become enlightened, and so I have come to be considered as an avatar for enlightenment.

Bhagavan, for those may not be familiar with the term avatar, how would you define it?

In India, we have this concept of the avatar. An avatar could be a musical avatar, a mathematical avatar, a political avatar, or a spiritual avatar.  An avatar is someone who comes with a specific mission on the planet and who is divinely inspired, and through whom divine energies flow.   Avatars can come in every field of human activity. Many seem to think it is can only pertain to spiritual work, but it isn't so.  But I happen to be a spiritual avatar.

You and Amma, your wife, are both avatars?

Yes we are both avatars, like two sides of the same coin.  We have excellent understanding and communication, and sometimes we don't even have to talk to know what's going on.   We work like one being when it comes to enlightenment and helping people.

Bhagavan, there have been so many avatars in human history, who have come and given different teachings, and helped to maybe enlighten a few people.   What makes you so different?

Well, I think it is not about my being different.  I think I have come at a different time.  The other avatars prepared people for enlightenment, for liberation, but could not give it to them, not because they were not capable of giving it, but because the times were not ready for that.   So I come at a time when earth's energies have changed, and man is very receptive, and it is possible to give him enlightenment.  So my advantage is that I have come at the right time, a time when it is possible to give it to man.

Does this have something to do with our movement into the Golden Age?

It definitely has to do with the emergence of the Golden Age.  In India it is believed that the Kali Yuga started sometime around 3002 BC and is supposed to have ended in 2002 AD.  By 2003 we are right into the Golden

Age.  That's why we began giving enlightenment publicly in the year 2003.

So it's only been one year.

It's only been one year.

Is this something you have been preparing for a very long time?

Yes, my whole life has been a preparation for this.  Ever since I was a child, my only concern was how to liberate man from his suffering.  These were not things that I arrived at through my own life experience, because I myself was a child, but rather I was forced to become concerned about man's suffering and to work for that.   That is why I am an avatar, because I never arrived at these conclusions, I was just led into these things by a higher energy, a higher force, what you call the divine energy, or God. 

Ever since I was a child I was made to do certain practices, which I did for many years.   So that has given me the ability.   So mostly I don't give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers.   I let others give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.   I am more like a powerhouse, and the others are like step down transformers who can receive this energy and pass it on to people.  So my function is to remain as a powerhouse for some time.   So this is how Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer is given and how enlightenment or God realization occurs.

I hear that each person's enlightenment is absolutely unique?

It's absolutely unique.  It depends on his background, his conditioning, what happened in his childhood, his own seeking, and his religious conditioning.  So all these things are involved.

Bhagavan, many many people have been seeking for many many lifetimes, and been through all kinds of practices and sadhanas and rituals and ceremonies and traditions, and many times they feel they have only been able to go so far, and none have been able to actually cross over into enlightenment.  So how is this different?

When I look at a person, I don't see him as a first-timer.  I only see millions of years behind him.  I believe that all of humanity has finished all the work they need to do.  I think everybody has been well prepared through so many lives.   And therefore now is the time to get it.   All the hard work has been done.  I believe everybody has done the hard work, and now the fruit is there to be had.

Yes, it must be such a relief for many people to hear that.

Yes, that's why I see everyone as a seeker, everybody has done their sadhana, everybody is ready. I cannot say so and so is not ready.

So there's no one who is not a seeker?

There is no one who is not a seeker. They could be seeking in different ways.

They could be seeking without even knowing they are seeking?

Without knowing they are seeking.

So as this work progresses, is it possible that more and more people will become enlightened who have no idea about enlightenment, who have never been seeking enlightenment, it will simply just happen?

Yes, what is likely to happen is that there are now people who are enlightened who are able to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers to people who are able to get into good states.  But very soon, maybe a few months from now, those who will receive Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer from them will naturally become enlightened.  And not only that, they will be able to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer to others and make them enlightened.  This process will continue for some time.  There will come a time when without Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer the whole of mankind is going to make it.   Once the critical level is reached there is going to be a spontaneous occurrence across the planet. 

What will this look like in practical terms?

In practical terms the world will look very different. We will not be able to talk about me being an Indian or you being an American or somebody else being an African.  We cannot talk in terms of races and nationalities, or I can't say I'm a Hindu, I'm a Christian, and I’m a Muslim.   So all these things that divide man will just disappear.  All these things will just drop off.  There will be no need for these things.  All these divisions will not exist.  We will become just human beings.  We will become one family.  It's not a concept, this will just happen.  This is when we will truly become humans.  But as long as we are going to define ourselves in terms of nationalities, religions, cultures, race, we will still continue to be tribal and very primitive.  We are becoming human now.  It will definitely happen.

What about people who are still into power, control, and ego games, and who may not want to get enlightened?

Yes, people who stubbornly resist enlightenment will also naturally become enlightened.  At that point there won't be any resisting it.  Nobody can say "I will stay out of enlightenment".  That is not possible.   It's a natural occurrence.  It's human evolution.   So all these power games and ego games will just stop.  You can just not do it anymore.  The brain will function differently.

That's amazing.  So even the people who are consciously and adamantly refusing to even think about sharing the earth with other people, who are trying to control the resources of the earth and creating environmental devastation for their own benefit, whether companies, governments, businesses, or individuals, this will all change?

Yes, all this will dramatically change.  Man will soon realize that the earth is a living organism, he depends on it like his Mother, so no one will even think of harming the earth.  This won't take some kind of education; it will be a natural happening.  This is what will happen.  So we are going to see a very different earth, a very different world. I am not speculating.  I am just speaking very directly from the visions thousands of people have had in the last decade from various continents.

Bhagavan there are many scientists who predict, based on what is happening on the planet today - global warming, possible ice age coming, the quality of air and water, and so on - that there could be a major environmental catastrophe, and that we might even end up wiping out all life on the planet.   How can you be so sure that there will be a planetary enlightenment?

 The predictions are quite true, but what they are not aware of is that, as we have seen in our visions, a great transformation is sweeping across the planet, which will in turn prevent these things from happening.  Already we are seeing signs of people becoming enlightened, and how it affects the environment.  We are able to see this on a very small scale.   And from that we are able to predict that on a global scale this transformation is going to occur. This is what is going to save the earth.  If that does not happen, then what the scientists are predicting could very well come true.

So an example could be that if a village gets enlightened, and there has been a drought for the past few years, then the monsoons come.

The monsoons will come, yes.  It is happening in many places in India.  We are seeing it.

So similarly when there are predictions of major earthquakes, volcanic activity, pole shifts even, then as people become enlightened, this will alter our relationship with the earth.

We could save the earth.  That is why we are telling people, "the house is on fire, let us move faster, let us hurry up".

Yes, this is a very important message for people to hear. There are so many people in despair and hopelessness, so many good people who have given up any kind of future for the earth because of what they see with their outer eyes.

Yes, but there is no need for them to lose hope, because things are going to change dramatically.  In a very unexpected way things are going to change.

Yes, I am so happy to hear that.  As people become enlightened, and as the planet becomes enlightened as a collective, how will that change the physical quality of the earth?

There is a very close correlation between human consciousness and the physical process occurring on the planet.  So the moment that conflict levels are reduced in human consciousness, you will find dramatic changes at the earth level also.   So you will find a reduction of insects and pests in the crops, and nature behaving in a much better way without the need for chemicals.   All these things are a natural consequence of the reduction of conflict in human consciousness.  There is such a close correlation between the two.  This also we are seeing on a small scale at the village level.   So as humans become enlightened, then our relationship with the environment will change, species that have become extinct will come back, the oceans will become de-polluted, and so on.

Yes, we have seen remarkable things happening on a small scale, so we believe it can happen on a large scale also.  So that's why we are so confident that these things will happen.  Otherwise there seems to be no hope in living at all.

Yes, otherwise there doesn't seem to be any point in going on.  Bhagavan, one question I have is about yours and Amma's consciousness, which pervades the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East).  How is it possible with so many people receiving the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East)

We actually function on two levels.  When I am having this conversation with you, certain things are switched off so that I can hold this meaningful conversation.  But at other times the switches are on and we can experience a lot of human beings at once and what is going on in their minds and their consciousness, and we can intervene and do many things.   Man does not know that dimension.  I am not claiming this as something special to me, because whatever I am experiencing I believe in making others also experience, and there are also others now at that level who can similarly experience a few hundred beings at the same time.  This is a faculty that is very natural to man and will start to open up in many people.  To me it happens very naturally.  Because of what happened to me in my early life I can focus on a 100,000-strong crowd and go into them and do many things.

So you are able to go into the collective consciousness?

Yes, it happens very easily and very naturally.  And others too are now able to do it to some extent.  Soon it will start happening in a bigger way. 

And that's very much a part of enlightenment?

That's very much a part of enlightenment, in fact many things will start happening after enlightenment.  We are not talking very much about it because it is going to happen very naturally.  Enlightenment is not going to stop at just being aware of things, or just being joyful or being in bliss.  There is a lot more to it.  But these will follow in the months coming.

One question which may sound a little strange, how is your consciousness as an avatar different from the consciousness of someone who gets enlightened?

At this point in time the only difference could be in the intensity of the awareness or the intensity of the bliss, but otherwise there is no basic fundamental difference.  But as these nadis open up and become stronger, his awareness levels will also increase and the gap will soon close.  But it may take a little time.  But fundamentally there is no difference.  Except I do have some additional facilities.  Like I can see what is going on in some other place, what's happening in somebody's mind, how I can help them.  I can really intervene in helping their life by taking up a strong sankalpa, a strong wish.  These too people will be able to acquire in the course of time.  Already a few of them have acquired this in a small measure.

So as people deepen into their enlightenment, these will be things that anyone is capable of?

Yes, as your concern for people grows, these things naturally start happening.  It's all a matter of how concerned you are about others.  As you go deeper and deeper into enlightenment your concern also increases.  Along with this, these things also start happening.

Yes, seems as if an entirely new species is arising.

Yes, it's more like that, an entirely new species is emerging.

Bhagavan, there are so many different religions in the world today.  What is your attitude towards all the different faiths?

I believe that different religions are required to handle the different needs of people.  I have seen people sometimes require a particular religion to handle a particular problem, or their background needs the input of a particular religion.  I personally have never had any difficulty with people of any faith.  Because the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer is a neutral thing and the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer only activates a certain area of the brain or deactivates it, and the person only discovers what his religion taught him.  So he discovers the truths of his own faith.  What I do or teach is not a new faith or religion, it is not anything new at all, it merely helps you to discover what you have been seeking all these years.  So I personally have no conflict with the people of any faith.

So once people are enlightened, the Muslim will experience his unity with Allah, the Christian will experience himself a Christ, a Buddhist will experience Buddha consciousness, and so on?

And so on. There is absolutely no conflict at all.  That's why I am saying that soon there will be no divisions of man, saying I belong to this religion or that religion, you know, we are going to become one family.   This is going to be a reality.

There is this beautiful song by John Lennon where he speaks of that.

Yes, and we are seeing this happening, especially in the areas where we are working, we are seeing it happening.

Yes, it seems that the differences between religions have only to do with ego, nothing to do with the essence of that religion.

Yes.

Bhagavan, you speak of different stages, different aspects of enlightenment.  You speak of the flowering of the heart, you speak of the witness consciousness, you speak about oneness.  Could you describe this in more detail?

Yes, the first thing that often happens in the process of enlightenment is the flowering of the heart.  You for the first time discover real compassion, real love for human beings.  But as this becomes deeper you lose a sense of separateness.  Even at this point we really do not call you fully enlightened.  We call you fully enlightened only when you are experiencing reality as it is.  To experience reality as it is these are some kinds of pre-requisites. Very rarely it happens suddenly in a big way.  So these may be called stages of enlightenment.  Enlightenment itself is experiencing reality as it is.

Is that equivalent to oneness?

It is equivalent to oneness.  But of course, oneness itself just takes off from there and finally becomes oneness with God, or oneness with cosmic consciousness.  It is the ultimate oneness.  But that could be difficult for some people, to say that man and God could become one.  That some people may not accept, but it is a reality that people can become one with God.

You speak of designing your own God. What do you mean by that?

When I speak of designing your own God I do not mean that you create your own God.  God is someone who creates you, and you do not create God.  But the way he is going to treat you and the way he is going to conduct himself with you depends on how you expect him to conduct himself with you.  This is taken from the Hindu concept of 'bhakta paradeena', that God is dependent on the devotee.  So if you want him to be a friend he behaves like a friend.  If you want him to behave like a mother, he behaves like a mother.  So it is in your hands to design the way he is going to behave with you. That's how I say you design your own God.

So certain aspects, certain views of God will make it easier to actually receive this gift?

Yes, it can be very easy to receive this gift.  If your concept of God is a very friendly one then you don't even have to pray.  You just ask it and he gives it to you.  Thousands of people have this kind of relationship.  I am only talking about when people have actually achieved it, not before that.  So people have made God their friend, a very friendly God.  This includes, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, and people of all faiths.

And God is masculine as well as feminine?

God is masculine as well as feminine, or light or formless.  Many have only a formless God.  Many have it as just light.  Some even have him as both male and female.  Each person has complete freedom.  It's the individual's choice.

You also speak of designing your own enlightenment.

Your own enlightenment, yes, like for example, you can design how much of heart you want, or how much of oneness you want, or how much of experiencing your reality you want.   Again it depends on your passion, the kind of books you have read, the kind of seeking you have had.

So it's really the beginning of a lifelong journey or exploration?

Exploration, yes. And you can change it also, in the course of time, you can change it.  In practice we find that people achieve different states of enlightenment.

What determines what state of enlightenment a person receives?  Does it have to do with karmic factors or does it have to do with your belief systems?

It has a lot to do with your belief systems, closely followed by your karma.  Very often it has to do with your belief systems, the kind of conditioning you have gone through.   But you can change it if you want to at some point in time, if you feel like it.  So that's why I am saying you can design your God, and you can design your enlightenment.

Bhagavan, I remember when I was young I was very fascinated by the life and teachings of Jesus, and always wondered what it would be like to be born in his times, to be one of his disciples, when he sent them out to go heal the sick and relieve suffering.  What is fascinating to me now is that the same kinds of miracles, the same kinds of healings are beginning to happening now with the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers and with other circumstances.  Would you like to say something about that?

Yes, this is the continuation of that work that Christ left behind.  This should have happened in fact 2000 years ago, this transformation of man, but for some reason it got aborted.  But now the same thing has come back.  So in the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers people are getting in touch with Christ consciousness, especially in the west.  They are discovering the same consciousness that Christ was trying to give them.  It is no different from that.  In fact I would say that would be true Christianity, as Christ intended it to be.

Yes, Christ said "I and the Father are One".

Yes.

So from that consciousness, miracles are possible.  So as people experience the same consciousness today the same miracles are being evident?

Yes, exactly.  

You mention that here are certain miracles taking place in Orissa.

Yes there is a place in Orissa, called Gutagaon, where thousands of people come, and get healed.  There is another place called Bhimavaram where surgeries are done on them as they come and lie down in front of the Srimurti. 

Like miracle surgeries. Like psychic surgeries?

Miracle surgeries, yes.  More and more this will be happening around the country and around the world.  These are not miracles that I go and do, they are spontaneous miracles occurring around the planet.  I personally do not do any miracles like that.  I am not a miracle worker in that sense.

But you train people to become miracle workers?

Yes, around them these miracles happen.

So it's really cosmic consciousness that allows the miracles to take place.  So the fact that is happening more and more, and that enlightenment is happening more and more, you have spoken about this in relationship to what you have called the 'morphogenetic fields'.  Could you describe that phenomenon?

Yes, for example this phenomenon is about 12 years old, and we have found that at certain intervals it becomes more powerful.  So what we have discovered is that the more people get that state it becomes easier for other people get that state, whether it is in connection with healings or the enlightened state or other states of consciousness.  We find that people who come later are getting it more easily and much faster.  So obviously there is a field which is absorbing all this transformation and is able to transfer it to others much faster.  That's how the morphogenetic fields are really helping.  We can see it in action. 

There is a psychologist in America, David Hawkins.  And he has devised a scale of consciousness from 0 to 1000.  At the bottom end of the scale are emotions like guilt, shame, fear, whereas on the upper end you have love and joy and enlightenment.  What he says is that one person who is holding the state of joy or love or enlightenment can actually counterbalance thousands or even millions of people who are holding the states of guilt, shame and fear that so many people are stuck in.  So what he says is that this is also a morphogenetic field and what is taking place is that because it doesn't take a large number of people, as long as they are high on the consciousness scale, they can actually create a huge wave of enlightenment.

So now you are training people to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers themselves, and this will be a part of this.  They will move out across the earth and they will begin to give Oneness Blessing Energy Transfers and make people enlightened, and then eventually, like you

It could happen very very fast.  Let's say people read your book that could be some kind of Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.  Or they can flock to your talks or programs where you are giving Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer, and it could happen very very fast.  It can happen very fast really.  People must be very serious.  That's all that is required.

I know some musicians who have gone through the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer training, and so as they perform the music, then that itself could be a Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer?

Yes. And one thing likely to happen, as people read your book, they could also get some kind of Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.  That's also very much possible.

I notice that when I was writing the book it was flowing through in such an amazing fashion, the entire book was written in 10 days. In fact, I felt your presence coming through so strongly.  So I am sure it is a Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer.

Yes, it is more like our architect who designed our Oneness Temple.  It just flowed through him, and in no time at all it was ready.  It was just lying before him.

You said about the Oneness Temple, that when people go in to worship, people can come in from any religious faith, but what they will see is a reflection of their own God.

Yes, it is a very strange temple, and there will be a strange throne there, an empty throne.  And when people from any faith will come and worship they will see their God or a sign of their God's presence on the throne. It will only be visible to them.  They can pray in any fashion they want.  And they will see their God on the throne. That's what is so unique about it.

So it is an inner revelation.  It also reminds me of the phenomenon that is growing known as the 'phala Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East)'. What actually happens?

In phala deeksha  the God whom they worship appears before them.  They could have a dialogue with that God and ask them for whatever they want or any clarifications they need about their life.  It is a great dialogue between man and God.  And God may grant them their wish, and in case he is not granting it he will give them a reason why he is not granting it.  So it is a one to one relationship between man and God.  So he gets what he wants.

So it is no longer dependent on faith.  It is a real life experience?

It is a real life experience.  It does not depend on your faith.

It shows the change in the relationship between man and God?

Yes. There is a change.  Something very epochal is happening here.  There is a definite change.  God is coming very close to man.  And man too.  It is a lost relationship.  They were supposed to be very close in the last Golden Age.  They are supposed to have walked and talked together, you know.  Then there was a strange alienation between man and God.  And it generated in subsequent yugas.   So now that the Golden Age is back, man and God have to come together.  They become friends again.  That's it.

I see the veils are beginning to thin between the dimensions and lokas.   One question that it brings up for me is the idea of death, because so many people are afraid to die, especially when they are conditioned by beliefs

What happens is that as people die and they are very scared of hell or of being judged by God, then very often they do not continue their journey.  They get stuck in the earth sphere as earthbound spirits.  That is an unfortunate thing that is happening.  If people of different faiths do the necessary rituals and ceremonies then it is definitely possible to help them.  But more important would be to make them talk to God and realize that God is very friendly and is not going to stand in judgment over them.  But this is going to require a shift in man's thinking.  I think that's the best way to liberate man.  He has to get friendly with his God; otherwise there is needless trouble.

So the actual passage of death is very beautiful and peaceful?

It's very very beautiful.  The process of dying is a very beautiful process.  But for most people, it takes about three days to realize they are dead.  Somehow it takes that much time.  That's why people have to go through ceremonies to help them realize they are dead and then to prepare them for their journey to meet God.  So if that can take place it is very easy.   But if on the other hand fear is put into the person they will hang around. Then they will have to be helped.

So there are spirit helpers who can assist them to go to the appropriate lokas?

Yes, that's why when people come to us we work with them to help their ancestors, their parents and grandparents to be cleared.  And once these people move away from the earth sphere the person can actually feel the liberation, they will feel a lightness.  It's not something to be believed in, but it can be experienced.

Bhagavan, what about people who have died?  When global enlightenment happens,  will they also be enlightened?

They will be spontaneously enlightened.  It's not only for the living but also for the dead.

 So then they can choose to reincarnate again on this earth or somewhere else?

It's up to them whether they want reincarnate on the earth sphere, or some other sphere, or some other planet.  It's all up to them.  Such is the freedom given to man.

Bhagavan, there are many people who have been longing their whole life for love, who feel like this has eluded them, who are so afraid to love, who are so afraid to receive love, what would you say to people like that?

Yes, I think they will soon be soaked and bathed in love.  I think there will soon be spontaneous occurrences of this.  Before enlightenment occurs people will have discovered love, I think.  And that will soon be followed by enlightenment itself.  And that will be followed by oneness with God.   I think that will be the order.

So enlightenment, God-realization, love.

Enlightenment, God-realization, love all these things are going to happen, people won't have to try and get there, these will just spontaneously happen.

I think that's the biggest gift that you are offering, that there is no striving necessary, in fact the striving itself can be a block, an obstacle to receiving it, because then the mind feels like it can do something.

Like it can do something, yes.  The poor mind cannot do anything, it is conflict ridden, it is in opposition with itself, it is repetitive in nature, it is too ancient.  So really it can't do much.  It has to realize it is helpless and give up.  That's when grace can take over.

You speak about the mind as the ancient mind. What do you imply by that?

By that I imply that basically its structure has not changed. That fear is at the core of the human mind.  Earlier it could have been the fear of a tiger or lion; today it is the fear of the stock market or the fear of losing your job.  Then you were very anxious abut the weather, now you are anxious about your job or other things. The same craving is there, the same desires are there.  The objects of desire have changed but the desire to be something else is still there.  You see, fundamentally man has not changed, that's why I call the mind very ancient. Only the objects have changed, the objects of craving, the objects of fear, the objects of anxiety, they have changed.

But fundamentally it is the same old mind, living continuously in fear, living continuously in becoming, moving from where you are to where you want to be.  It does not stay put.  It is not where it should be.  It mainly lives in fear.  And basically there is no change in man.  So I do not see any difference between Homo sapiens and Neanderthal man.  We have had limited experience of people who have lived earlier, and we see that fundamentally they are the same.

So when we are enlightened we can leave this mind behind?

You can leave this mind behind, yes.  You can become completely free of the mind.  I am talking of a transformation where you become free of the mind.   I am not focusing so much on a transformation within the mind.  That the psychologists and the philosophers can do.  And they are doing a fairly good job.  So I don't have to waste time on that.  But I am talking of becoming free of the mind itself.

Bhagavan, do you have any plans to travel around the world?

Certainly not in the near future.  Maybe sometime, it's very possible.  I don't really need to travel.  I can do my work from wherever I am.

Do you feel that at some point your work will be over?

Most certainly, yes.  The moment the world is enlightened, my work is over.   The moment humanity becomes one humanity, one complete humanity, and all the divisions have ceased, my work is over.  I am here to remove all divisions in whatever form they might exist.

So Bhagavan would you like to say any final words to readers of this book, or to people watching this video?

I would like to tell them that though humanity faces a lot of obstacles, and danger seems to be lurking around the corner, I would like to tell them that redemption is around the corner, that we are going to make it!

Bhagavan, I am so grateful to be in your presence, and to know that this redemption is around the corner.  I am sure many many people around the world echo my sentiments, just to know that there is hope and that there is a plan, that we are entering into a Golden Age, and that the Oneness Blessing Energy Transfer (known as deeksha in the East) is possible now, that it can actually transform people's lives so completely and so beautifully in a way that was never possible before.  So please accept my heartfelt gratitude.

It has been so nice talking to you.

Thank you. Namaste.

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The Morphogenic fields explained by “The Hundredth Monkey”

By Ken Keyes Jr.

The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years.

In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant. An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers too.

This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists. Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.

Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes - the exact number is not known.

Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes. Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.

THEN IT HAPPENED!

By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them. The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!

But notice. A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea.

Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.

Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind. Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the conscious property of these people. But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!

Editors Note from www.experiencefestival.com - See also the writings of Rupert Sheldrake and Robert Gilman and Terence Mckenna.  Morphogenetic fields are basically non-physical blueprints that give birth to forms. According to its main proponent, the biologist Rupert Sheldrake, a morphogenetic (morphic) field, is an equivalent to an electromagnetic field that carries information only, not energy. These fields are available throughout time and space without any loss of intensity after they have been created. Morphogenetic fields are created by the patterns of physical forms. They help guide the formation of later similar systems where a newly forming system "tunes into" a previous system by having within it a "seed" that resonates with a similar seed in the earlier form. Morphogenetic fields can be used to describe how the human consciousness is shared. The Morphogenetic fields therefore play the main role in the idea that humanity at one point in time will go through a dramatic collective shift in consciousness. A shift that will happen when the critical mass for a shift is reached.  In the case of the major shift in consciousness known as worldwide enlightenment, Bhagavan reports that this will be when 64,000 spiritually awakened individuals are reached.

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Sri Bhagavan was born on the 7th of March 1949 in the town of Natham, North Arcot District in the state of Tamil Nadu, South India.  He was a very unusual child; always introspective and only concerned about how to give mankind total freedom.  Today, we recognize Sri Bhagavan and his partner Amma as Divine Avatars, very rare beings who can give liberation to practically anybody.  They take complete responsibility for giving complete Enlightenment to all seekers and are not satisfied with giving some nice teachings, temporary states or performing some miracles.

When asked, "When did this change in consciousness come to you?", Sri Bhagavan replies:

"There has been no change in My consciousness since I was a little child. I never had a guru.  Even as a little child riding on the shoulders of a giant like servant or sitting under a tree while My friends played, My only concern was humanity’s suffering.  I would silently sob, choke and faint, experiencing humanity’s suffering. My body does not have a limitation.  The consciousness of My body is limitless and hence it experiences all that Man experiences.  My only passion ever since I came into this planet has been to end humanity’s suffering.  And I knew to end suffering, mankind needed to enter into an altered state of consciousness.  I also knew that Man was helpless and it has to be given to him and I decided to give it.

The miracles that Amma and I perform are merely manifestation of the compassion and love we feel for you.  It is simply the power of our consciousness that is making this neurobiological transformation in the brain possible, leading you to Enlightenment"

Sri Amma was born the 15th of August 1954 in the beautiful village Sangham in the state of Andhra Pradesh, South India.  She is loved for her wisdom and childlike simplicity.  We could say that Sri Bhagavan and Amma are one being in two bodies and both of them can transfer the state of Oneness to any amount of people. 

Bhagavan is guiding this process while Amma is generating tremendous energy so that the Oneness state will become available for everybody.  When asked about healing, Bhagavan often tells people to ask Amma as she will react faster than him since she is an embodiment of Shakti, the feminine divine power.  Those who have an inner contact (friendship) with both Bhagavan as well as Amma will get Oneness much easier as there will be harmony of yin and yang within.

In the 1980's Amma, Bhagavan and his friend and disciple from childhood, Shankarji, opened a spiritual school called Jeevashram.  The divine phenomenon took birth in July 1989, when suddenly the students began to experience great states of cosmic consciousness.  Great miracles became a daily happening in the lives of these students and many of them became like real prophets and mystics. After some time Bhagavan and Amma selected six students as their direct disciples and began their real project - to transfer the Oneness state to mankind.  From this humble official beginning in 1991, Bhagavan's Golden Age Movement has today approximately 15-30 millions members from all over the world.  This number is increasing daily and many new countries get added every passing year.

 

 

 

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